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How do your food choices affect your mental health? Georgia Ede, a Harvard-trained psychiatrist specializing in nutrition science, brain metabolism, and mental health, talks about what we should eat for good brain health. She addresses the root causes of poor mental health, which include inflammation, oxidative stress and insulin resistance, covers brain healthy diet principles, and takes a look at the Mediterranean, paleo and ketogenic diets in light of brain health. Watch the video to learn how to nourish, protect and energize your brain.

Dr. Ede speaks internationally about dietary approaches to psychiatric disorders, nutrition science, and nutrition policy reform. Through her virtual consultation practice, she uses nutrition and metabolic interventions including paleo diets, ketogenic diets, intermittent fasting, and elimination diets to help people around the world address root causes of mental health conditions, improving their metabolic health and often reducing the need for psychiatric medications.

This talk was presented at the recent "Food for Thought 2023: Rising to the challenge of obesity and diabetes" conference held by Swiss Re Institute and @TheBMJ . Learn more: https://www.swissre.com/institute/con...


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I'm very pleased to introduce Georgia Eid again psychiatrist um from the US who has done a lot of this written a
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book so Georgia inform us please thank you very
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[Applause] much good morning uh nice to be back
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with all of you again today uh so there have been some really interesting presentations and discussions about how
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diet affects physical and mental health over the past couple of days uh we have
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considered some very important questions things like how much carbohydrate should we eat how much fat should we eat how
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many calories should we eat how often should we eat what things should we not eat but one of the things that we really
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haven't talked very much about it all is what should we eat uh how do Foods the
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individual food choices that we make within our preferred dietary patterns how do those affect our risk for future
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mental health conditions and the course of of any existing mental health conditions we may already have so um and
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this was you food actually the brain actually cares a lot about your food choices uh and that's not something that
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I would have thought about when I was in medical school or residency as I think most women do I thought really of my
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food choices as purely a way of controlling my weight uh and and it
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wasn't brought up in in medical school residency this relationship uh but of course food does matter to the brain
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uh uh we were taught um the What's called the bioc psychosocial model of
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causes root causes of mental illness meaning that mental illnesses are thought to have psychosocial causes uh
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such as stress trauma of course your mother um and those kinds of stresses we
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were taught to address with Psychotherapy and we were taught that the bi the biological root causes of
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mental illnesses were largely neurot transmitter imbalances chemical imbalances in the brain this is a theory
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that's been uh dominant for the past 75 years and really the biological uh uh
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track and Psychiatry has has changed very very little over that period of time now it's not that uh
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neurotransmitter balances don't matter they do uh and it's not that the medications that address these
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neurotransmitter imbalances can't help sometimes they certainly can help sometimes it's just that they don't they
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really fail most people um they do help some people excuse me they do help some
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people but the price that people pay for the relief that they will sometimes get from these medications is often a a lot
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of U um physical health especially metabolic Health disturbances for example um within minutes to hours of
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the first dose of taking an anti-yo medication blood sugar and insulin levels can begin to rise so there are a
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lot of trade-offs here so and this is very interesting because I've been thinking about this week when it comes to the convers is we've we've talked a
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lot about obesity and type 2 diabetes and uh we actually have For Better or
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For Worse we have some medications that can help us with obesity and type 2 diabetes they actually work and uh if
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you can access them and tolerate them we really don't have for most people uh any
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good medication solutions for mental illnesses and this makes nutrition uh prioritizing good nutrition and finding
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alternative Solutions uh all the more important so medications are important I still use
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them in my practice even though I'm a nutritional and metabolic psychiatrist they have a really important place to
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play to play uh a role to play but uh you know I've become convinced uh very
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strongly that the most powerful way to change brain chemistry is through food
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because that's where the brain chemicals come from in the first place and I think all of us would agree that food must
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play some role uh we may also uh agree that this so so called sad diet the S
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standard American diet which is very high in ultr processed foods is probably not very good for the brain it certainly
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hazardous for the rest of the body why should the brain be any different but I think where we might uh come to some uh
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heated disagreements and uh passionate discussion is uh what should we eat instead of the standard American diet
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which dietary changes are most worth making and why there's no consensus
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around that question we have lots of opinions we have uh um so for example
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there are two uh relatively new uh sub Specialties within the field of
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psychiatry in the past 10 years or so the field of modern nutritional Psychiatry uh nutritional Psychiatry is
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a um a field established uh this term was coined by uh Dr Feliz Jacka a
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nutritional psych psychology researcher at the univers uh daon University in Australia and the the thought leaders
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most of the thought leaders in in the field of nutritional Psychiatry um uh recommend the Mediterranean diet over
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the standard American diet uh now I consider myself a nutritional psychiatrist because nutritional
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psychiatrists believe that uh the uh the decline in uh our Global mental health
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is largely related to the decline and the deter the decline and the quality of the modern diet so I absolutely 100%
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agree with that so uh nutritional psychiatrists for the most part a focus
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on the Mediterranean diet and with good reason there is actually excellent data on the Mediterranean diet particularly
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for clinical depression there are several randomized control trials now showing that if you switch from a
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standard American diet to the Mediterranean diet you can significantly improve uh symptoms of
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depression but just because the Mediterranean diet is better than the standard American diet for the brain
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does not necessarily mean that it's the best diet for the brain and there is uh
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there are several reasons uh to to think that it may not be now there's an even newer branch of
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uh Psychiatry uh called metabolic Psychiatry and this was a a term coined by Dr Shabani SEI who's here this week
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from Stanford metabolic psychiatrists are interested uh Less in the nutritional quality of the diet and more
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in the metabolic quality of the diet meaning that we are and I also consider myself a metabolic psychiatrist we are
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interested in the metabolic roots of mental illness uh in other words how does uh how does the diet that people
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are eating provide the brain with energy UHC and and we are primarily interested
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in the ketogenic diet because it energizes the brain so differently from every other diet and somehow we've
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gotten away I don't know how how this happened we've escaped uh defining what a ketogenic diet is it's already
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Wednesday conference is almost over uh but uh let me just Rectify that so uh I
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think a good definition is any way of eating uh that lowers insulin levels
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enough to turn on fat burning and generate clinically meaningful levels of
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ketones in the blood most people would say that that begins at around .5 Millo beta beta hydroxy mate now it doesn't
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have to be a low carb diet uh you can get intermittently into ketosis using intermittent fasting you can uh get into
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ketosis using a very low calorie diet even if it's high in carbohydrate uh but
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a ketogenic diet allows you to stay in ketosis without fasting and without uh
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Cal caloric restriction so typically is very low in carbohydrate uh moderate in
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protein not excessive in protein uh and obtains most of its uh calories from fat
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as opposed to carbohydrate so these are two very different diets and I and I hope that if
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you were here on Monday you were you were convinced or at least intrigued by the the what I think is the remarkable
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therapeutic potential of the ketogenic diet to improve uh even quite serious mental illnesses so how can both of
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these two very different diets one which is based in carbohydrate starches and Grains and the other which contains
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almost no carbohydrate at all how can both of those diets be good for the brain and is one of them better than the
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other I mean patients are very very confused about this so I think that whenever we're
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thinking about any diet uh I mean there are lots of other dietary patterns we could talk about you know low fat and
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vegan other kinds of diets how do we know which one is best for the brain and I think the only way we can really even
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begin to think about this question is to take a step back and instead of you know asking you know what your favorite diet
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how how your favorite diet whether it's the best for the brain is to ask what does a brain healthy diet need to
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accomplish and that way we can establish some maybe some uh logical criteria by which we could then uh you know compare
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our favorite diets too kind of as a as a yard stick as an objective yard stick so I hope these won't be too uh I I hope
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that we can gather some consensus around these uh I don't think there's a controversial a brain healthy diet
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should nourish the brain it should provide the brain with all essential nutrients it should protect the brain by
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excluding any ingredients that we are fairly certain damage the
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brain and it should energize the brain in ways that support healthy brain
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metabolism over the lifespan so um I think those are those are fairly not
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should be non-controversial uh so when whenever we're making any food Choice within whatever dietary
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pattern you wish we could be asking ourselves this question how does this food nourish protect and energize my
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brain is this doing anything for me or is this mostly doing something against me uh and so which foods are best at
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nourishing the brain now Whole Foods are certainly better at nourishing the brain than other foods but not all whole foods
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are created equal and it is just it it is inescapable this truth this biological
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truth that if you are trying to nourish your brain entirely with plant foods not with supplements or Ultra processed
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foods that have been fortified you you you cannot do this without including some animal food in
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your diet it's it's just a fact a biological fact uh this um uh this slide
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uh shows you the nutrient deficiencies uh for which uh people who are choosing a vegan diet uh this this
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were deficient in more likely to be deficient in than people who are eating other diets this was a study just
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published in uh 2022 conducted in the Netherlands very nicely written study so
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these are you know nutrients like vitamin B12 iron zinc iodine omega-3 fatty acids all of those nutrients are
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much more difficult if not impossible to obtain from plant Foods uh and uh and
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are are very easy to obtain from animal Foods so I want to give an example
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example of why even if a plant food contains a nutrient that you might not be able to access it and this is a little known nutrition secret uh so for
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example the grains and the glooms that form the the foundation of the Mediterranean diet are actually extraordinarily poor sources of
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micronutrients uh and they also contain antinutrients and so there are a variety
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of these listed here we're just going to focus on one for the sake of example which is phytic acid uh phytic acid
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exists in all grains beans nuts and seeds and it's a powerful mineral magnet designed to hold on to the mineral for
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the sake of the sprouting plant it certainly does not want you to uh to to uh obtain to access its
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minerals so phytic acid interferes with our ability to absorb iron calcium
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magnesium and zinc uh and I I use this slide in many presentations forgive me if you've already seen it but it's just
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a helpful uh example so oysters are the uh the food the whole food uh that is
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richest in zinc uh in the world so so if you eat oysters your zinc level will
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rise very nicely in the blood if you eat that those oysters with uh black beans
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then you will absorb less than half of the zinc from those oysters if you eat those oysters with corn tortillas you
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absorb virtually none of the zinc from those oysters this is not a subtle effect and minerals are very important
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for the brain um you know for many many uh many uh functions in the brain
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including uh affecting our neurotransmitter systems which drugs are trying to help us improve the function
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of excuse me so iron is a lovely example too because you know we take for granted
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that 20% of women around the world are iron deficient this is just really absurd that we would accept this because
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if you have iron deficiency you don't just have a blood problem you have a brain problem an iron is required for
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neurotransmitter synthesis and it is it is a an essential part of the electron
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transport chain inside mitoch contri where brain energy is generated not enough iron not enough brain
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energy so uh nourishing your brain requires that you include at least some animal food in the
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diet which foods do you need to exclude to protect your
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brain uh so of course the ultra processed foods that would be a great place to start um and a hearty
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congratulations to the UK because now more than 50% of your diet is no longer food it is now ultr processed
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ingredients um and second only to the United States uh where uh it is more than 60% of our
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foods and so when we're talking about what makes the standard American diet so dangerous for the body and for the brain
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it's not red meat and saturated fat those are ancient ingredients it's the modern ingredients that are so novel to
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our bodies these started as Whole Foods uh we're talking about refined carbohydrates and refin Seed oils these
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are the signature ingredients of all modern unhealthy diets so regardless of
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what pattern you eat you want to exclude refined carbohydrates and vegetabl O as much as you
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can so um these uh uh um so even if
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you're eating lots of healthy Whole Foods throughout the week and on the weekends you take a break and you treat yourself to something Ultra processed if
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you're eating too many of these ultr processed foods you've taken this beautiful brain that you've worked so hard to build during the week and you
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have dropped it into a very unhealthy environment of inflammation oxidative
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stress and insulin resistance these are the more recently discovered uh drivers of
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all kinds of uh Neuropsychiatric conditions and and physical conditions as well so how to refine carbohydrates
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and refine seed oils lead to excessive inflammation oxidative stress and
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insulin resistance and what are these things anyway we've talked a lot about insulin resistance but not so much with
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respect to the brain so inflammation and oxidation are normal part the normal first phase of
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our immune system they're healthy normal responses to to any threat so if you're eating a diet that's too high in refined
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carbohydrates uh your blood sugar levels will Spike too frequently and your brain sugar levels will Spike too frequently
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as well uh and uh that excess sugar in the brain's environment will literally
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stick to proteins and lipids and uh nucleic acids and other cell components
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and create these um crippled dysfunctional carmalized molecules
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called Advanced glycation end products and to prevent these from accumulating the brain mounts an immune response uh
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to begin to neutralize the clear away these ages uh and and and then is supposed to
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return the brain supposed to heal the brain and return it to normal that first phase of the immune
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response is uh brain cells releasing uh inflammatory cyto kindes to deliberately
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create inflammation and uh oxygen-free radicals to deliberately create oxidative stress these are the important
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first steps of the immune response but then they're supposed to be followed by a healing phase now uh this is supposed
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to be controlled temporary targeted but if you are eating foods containing
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refined carbohydrates three four five six times a day which is not at all
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unusual uh this process never has a chance to let up so what you've got is
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uncontrolled chronic inflammation and oxidative stress very dangerous for the
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brain we we are only beginning to uh understand how um how the toxic
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vegetable oils that Nina telz has done such a beautiful job on covering the dangers of uh in her book Big Fat
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Surprise in all of her research um we're only only beginning to understand how these affect the brain so vegetable oils
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are exceedingly unnaturally high in linolic acid a very fragile uh uh fatty
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acid um uh polyunsaturated fatty acid um
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what I understand so far about these which I researched for the book is that the brain absorbs linolic acid quite
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well but it really doesn't know what to do with it it it it what it does with it
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unfortunately instead of turning it into you know arachadonic acid which is an important uh U Omega important omega-6
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fatty acid for the brain or turning into something else useful almost all the linolic acid absorbs it burns for energy
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that's not what you want the brain is not supposed to burn fat F acids for energy when it burns fatty acids for
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energy it creates a lot of inflammation and oxidative stress and the brain is much better at Burning uh glucose
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ketones and other small molecules uh so how do excessive
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inflammation and oxidative stress regardless of what causes them because diet's not the only cause you know smoking uh alcohol consumption other
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types of things can cause inflammation and oxidative stress but so how do inflammation and oxidative stress
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contribute to m mental health problems one way is by creating neurotransmitter
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imbalances the very same neuro neurotransmitter imbalances that psychiatric medications are designed to
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Target so this is just one prime example of this is a a pathway in the brain called the kerine pathway so you can see
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on the left um the molecule tryptophan it's an amino acid an essential amino acid from dietary protein normally under
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normal circumstances as you see here we'll call this the Zen State um this is
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a the tryptophan a small amount will go down to make serotonin and melatonin
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important neurotransmitters but most of it even under normal circumstances will go to the right uh down this curine
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pathway where it's used to regulate the balance between two other neurotransmitters major
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neurotransmitters in the brain widespread Gaba and glutamate so you can
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think of Gaba as sort of the brain's brake pedal and glutamate as the brain's
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gas pedal uh Gab is the brain's primary inhibitory neurotransmitter and glutamate is the brain's primary
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excitatory excitatory neurotransmitter so the balance between these two Gaba
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and glutamate at any given moment essentially determines the brain's activity level at any given point in
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time uh so uh so what happens under the influence of excessive inflammation or
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oxidative stress is this something called the tryptophan steel where even
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less tryptophan goes down to make serotonin and melatonin and almost all of it goes down the bottom branch of the
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ainan pathway the neuro inflammatory pathway uh uh where so as a result what
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you get of this shift is you get less serotonin less melatonin more dopamine
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less Gaba and significantly more glutamate up to 100 times Baseline and
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if this state persists or occurs too often uh you it can lead to a a
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situation called glutamate excitotoxicity this is uh associated with many different psychiatric
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conditions are known to uh to be associated with glutamate ex cytotoxicity glut high levels of
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glutamate are very dangerous for the brain they directly physically damage
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proteins lipids nucleic nucleic acids which means that they can injure
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mitochondria weaken the bloodb brain barrier uh kill cells of the hippocampus and cause the hippocampus the brain's
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learning and memory Center to shrink so you do not want to spend too much time
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in this state of mind so uh how do you best energize the
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brain so we we understand that to nourish it you you should include some animal foods and stick primarily to
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Whole Foods uh um and and reduce the the amounts of foods that have antinutrients
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in them we know that uh to protect it you want to really avoid those refined carbohydrates and Seed oils that there
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are other things you want to do as well but this this is what we have time for today how do you best energize the brain
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it's really this simple what you want to do is keep your blood sugar and insulin levels under good control and so part of
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that of course is avoiding refined carbohydrates that there's two reasons then to do that um so how does the brain
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uh normally get energy uh so uh when glucose is traveling through the bloodstream um uh the the uh the amount
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of glucose inside the brain is always mirrors the amount traveling in the bloodstream it's proportional it's much
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lower inside the brain than in the blood but it's proportional so the higher the blood sugar the higher the brain sugar
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um so even people with severe insulin resistance or type 2 diabetes which is an end stage form of insulin resistance
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never need to worry about low brain glucose what they need to worry about people with insulin resistance which is
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now the vast majority of us uh is lowb brain insulin because when somebody
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develops insulin resistance uh if becomes harder and harder for insulin to cross into the brain glucose still
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waltzes in no questions asked but this uh if your insulin levels are running
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too high too often the uh insulin receptors on the bloodb brain barrier become resistant to insulin and uh those
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insulin receptors are needed to escort insulin into the brain so now you've got a problem on your
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hands so this is a paradox so the more refined carbohydrate you eat the higher
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your blood sugar levels will be uh but the higher insulin levels will be so
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high blood sugar high Blain sugar but over time paradoxically the higher the blood insulin the lower the brain
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insulin this is a serious problem because the brain cannot turn glucose
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into energy or anything else um efficiently to maximal capacity without
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adequate insulin and that leads to a situation uh called cerebral glucose
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hypometabolism which is just a fancy expression for SL sluggish brain glucose processing uh you're not processing
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glucose at full capacity if you have insulin resistance uh so essentially the brain can be swimming in a sea of
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glucose and still be starving to death that is a very serious problem and that
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is one of the driving forces behind Alzheimer's disease as we heard from Dr Steven Cain earlier this week um and as
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I was explaining on Monday uh the um all of the conditions on this slide all the
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psychiatric conditions on this slide are known to be associated with insulin resistance and or cerebral gluc glucose
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hypometabolism so obviously prevention is best right so once you have insulin
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resistance especially if it's more advanced uh you already have some compromise in your brain's ability to
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use glucose for energy so you want to prevent that situation because it's actually very
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difficult if not impossible to reverse that situation um once you're in that situation you're going to need an
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alternative fuel source so prevention is best uh and I think we really need to expand the
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narrative uh we think I mean again was I when I was in medical school and rency I I was not thinking about the health of
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any of my organs I was just thinking about how to control my weight and I think a lot of people do still and that's it's something people really care
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about but we need to expand the narrative Beyond obesity Beyond type 2 diabetes um to to brain health and you
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know under teaching people how important it is to protect their metabolic Health
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before it's too late because once it's too late you you often have to go to some measures that you might not want to
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go to to re-energize your brain and and Revitalize your um Revitalize your
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metabolism so what diet is best for prevention is one question what diet is best for treatment is another
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question so let's take some of the principles that we uh have just U gone through through today to uh translate
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those into some some basic brain food rules now there are others but we don't they don't have time for it but but
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these are your fundamentals to nourish your brain you want to include some animal food in the diet you want to
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avoid grains and legums if you can to protect the brain you want to
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avoid refined carbohydrates and uh vegetable oils and Ultra processed foods to energize your brain you want to
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avoid refined carbohydrate and you want to tailor your whole food sources of
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carbohydrates by which I mean fruits and vegetables fruits and starchy vegetables to your personal metabolic tolerance you
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may not need a ketogenic diet you may only need to understand what your
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personal carbohydrate threshold is it's a little different for everyone so um I'm going to come back to
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the Mediterranean diet because I I alluded to the my I said something a
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little provocative and I want to clean it up which is i' said that just because the mediterran Mediterranean diet is
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better for the brain uh than the standard American diet I mean really what diet isn't um uh doesn't mean it's
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necessarily the best diet for the brain uh so and I said that there are some good reasons to think that it may not be
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so what did I mean by that well let's use our new yard stick of nourish uh protect energize how well does the
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Mediterranean diet nourish the brain uh well it is grounded and it's found Foundation is nutrient po grains and
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legumes that are high in anti-nutrients that doesn't make a lot of sense to me I think you could choose a better
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Foundation how well does it protect the brain well it does discourage certain types of refined carbohydrates such as
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sweets sugar things like that but it also explicitly encourages other types
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of refined grains such as Breads and pasta so it's it's not it doesn't do as
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good a job as it could and it EXP explicitly encourages red wine consumption which as a psychiatrist I
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think that's just malpractice I if any patient comes to me and says oh Dr E you know a lot of trouble concentrating my
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memory is not what it used to be I'm so depressed I am not going to say to them you're not drinking enough red wine this
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is the problem go home drink more red wine come back next week I am sure you'll be feeling
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better so you know red wine is a all alcohol very uh potent promoter of
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oxidative stress a root cause of mental health conditions that we are trying to avoid by improving our diet uh so that
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doesn't make any sense at all um how well does it energize the
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brain it's simply too high in carbohydrate of all types refined and otherwise for the majority of us who now
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have insulin resistance and those of you wearing a glucose monitor can can check this out for yourself a lot of people
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think of a nice big bowl of oatmeal topped with blueberries as brain healthy watch your glucose monitor when you have
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that that uh that that for breakfast and see what happens so uh unfortunately the the
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Mediterranean diet while it is nutritionally better higher quality uh and healthier than the standard American
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diet pays almost no attention to metabolic quality uh so when I'm recommending a
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place to begin for the you know somebody who's trying to improve their diet I I recommend starting with a paleo diet
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instead of a Mediterranean diet because it it it it includes animal Foods as does the Mediterranean diet the
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Mediterranean diet does include animal Foods it's not a quote unquote plant-based
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diet uh but the the paleo diet explicitly excludes grains and legumes
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it also explicitly excludes all refined carbohydrates uh refined seed oils ultr
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processed foods and dairy but we won't talk about that today um and uh and but
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but what about energizing the brain the paleo diet May energize your brain beautifully if you have a healthy
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carbohydrate metabolism if you're you're lucky enough to still have that you might be able to tolerate you know all
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the fruits and starchy vegetables you wish I mean we were designed to do that as human beings but if you have insulin
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resistance it may uh contain too much carbohydrate even from fruits and vegetables for for you to be healthy
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only you can figure that out so um you may need to lower your carbohydrate intake uh you may need even
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to uh to uh go to a ketogenic diet so on a ketogenic diet so let's say let's say you have insulin resistance and it's
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severe enough that a paleo diet is not good enough for you um your brain glucose levels are still going to be
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spiking too high after you eat carbohydrate Rich meals uh your um and and your your brain insulin is going to
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be too low so your brain glucose is going to processing is going to be sluggish so you're going to need to go
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on a ketogenic diet to get some ketones uh rising in the blood which will cross easily over the through the bloodb brain
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barrier and and bridge that energy gap you know take up the slack that's been
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um uh uh that's been left by insulin resistance so it's a wonderful uh really
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a godsent for the insulin resistant insulin deficient brain but if you're eating a ketogenic
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diet please also be mindful of nutritional quality ketones are not all
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the brain needs the brain also needs nutrients and it needs to be protected so both metabolic and nutritional
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quality matter so I wrote this book to help explain many of these very
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controversial things that I'm recommending and and and others um I didn't write this book to try to control
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what people eat I'm I'm nutritionally pro-choice um I work with lots of people who eat uh so-called plant-based diets I
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and I will help people optimize the brain health of any diet they choose I
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want everyone to have a seat at the table when it comes to improving brain health there are lots of things you can do with your diet that will improve its
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brain healthiness uh even without uh including animal Foods or going uh on a
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ketogenic diet um but the reason I wrote this book is because it really breaks my
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heart to meet people every day they have tried so many medications they have
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tried so many diets they have tried meditation they have tried mindfulness
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they have tried psycho they've been in Psychotherapy for 10 years and they think they've tried everything and they
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think they're doing everything right the problem is they don't have the information about food and the reason
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why we don't have the right information about food is because as Nina telz and Gary tobs and so many other people have
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told you the science uh the science is is is wrong uh there the the there is no
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science behind the nutrition guidelines and headlines most of what we see uh so
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people have the wrong information and so what I want people to know is that you haven't tried everything there's so much
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more you can do if you have the right information and then it's your choice to decide whether or not you want to do
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that so I just want to tell people out there if they're listening and are struggling with these issues and think
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that there's nothing else left to try that hope is still on the menu thank
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